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Nigel	Broadstone viaduct		Lead	[-]
Posts: 1739 02/03/2010 01:01:38 Expert	Tags : None Remove this ad I was doing more trawling... A rare shot of the viaduct at Broadstone. When was it removed, I wonder?
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C236		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1044 02/03/2010 07:41:17	I think it was during the 1950s...............
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gnr302		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3283 02/03/2010 12:28:58 Expert	Where exactly was that viaduct? Was it a road, railway or what? Great find, Nigel.
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C236		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1046 02/03/2010 20:01:35	I think it went from the forecourt of Broadstone directly into Western Way, roughly where the petrol station was built afterwards. I'm not sure if this shot is looking towards Phibsboro, or towards Constitution Hill?
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Csalem		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1171 02/03/2010 21:15:56 Full Member	Did it not carry the canal across the road? There is no doubt that our attractions will drive kids out of their minds. What are those? Small versions of adults, honey.
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Posts: 1047 02/03/2010 21:46:05	What canal?
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Csalem		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1172 02/03/2010 23:07:34 Full Member	The Royal Canal had a spur down to the station I believe. Streets around the station are known as Royal Canal Terrace and Royal Canal Bank. There is no doubt that our attractions will drive kids out of their minds. What are those? Small versions of adults, honey.
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VWL134		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 356 02/03/2010 23:10:53	What ran across it? Was looking on the OSI MAP of the Broadstone area. Doesn't look like a typical disused railway.
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Nigel		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1743 02/03/2010 23:25:51 Expert	It was a branch of the Royal Canal, with a harbour where the present day Phibsboro Garage sits. The line of the old Royal Canal exists today, although filled in. The parapet of the parking area in front of Broadstone depot would appear to be the location of the west pier of the aqueduct. It appears on the Ordnance Survey historic maps as the Foster Aqueduct, and the harbour is shown as well, although the map appears to predate the MGWR station. Here is a Google Earth capture of the location today, and the line of the Royal Canal can be clearly seen. It is a public area now. The location of the west pier of the aqueduct can also be seen, abutting the box junction on Phibsborough Road. Hence the reason for the rather awkward topography of the whole Broadstone area.
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Nigel		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1744 02/03/2010 23:37:38 Expert	An old copperplate view of the viaduct facing south. According to Wikipedia, the branch was constructed in 1796, and opened ten years later. A photographic survey of the Broadstone line is available at http://irishwaterwayshistory.com/abandoned-or-little-used-irish-waterways/the-broadstone-line-of-the-royal-canal/ According to this article, the viaduct was removed in 1951. A pity, as it was a unique structure in the city environs. As an aside, it is obvious to see why route 19 buses originally travelled via North Circular Road... Last Edited By: Nigel 02/03/2010 23:39:42. Edited 1 time.
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gnr302		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3287 03/03/2010 00:29:13 Expert	Remove this ad Excellent piece of research, Nigel. Well done! I had my suspicion it was an aquaduct, but had never seen it on a map; also didn't realise it was there as late as 1951. The branch of the Royal Canal went down Royal Canal Bank in Phibsboro, where there is a park now, also Blessington Street Basin. I never realised that there was such a basin on the other side of the road where the bus garage is now. The first bus to use this road was the 34 in 1954, followed by the 38a in 1956. So it does look like the timing of sending bus routes this way was very much connected with demolition of the aquaduct in 1951. Now that is a very useful piece of information for our route histories. Looking at old maps with bus routes (e.g. the 1941 map that has been shown on Garaiste) it was always curious that such a large area had no bus route. Now we understand why.
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wyth		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 313 03/03/2010 11:12:43	Very interesting thread, I was talking to locals a long time back about that viaduct, and they said it was very low head clearance so a lot of trucks couldnt pass under, it was feeding the canal into Broadstone, goods trains or cattle trains fed into the canal. No lorries were needed! Its also funny to think in 1970, there was over 900 electric vans & trucks operating in Dublin, milk, bread ect..... today how many?
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griffin		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 882 03/03/2010 13:32:58	While I did know about the aquaduct, mainly through my interest in the MGWR, I had never seen a clear photo of it, excellent find Nigel! To add to wyth's comment. One of my memories of growing up was the large amount of battery electric vans in the city such as bread vans, milk floats and laundries from such manufacturers as Wilson, Morrison and Wales & Edwards. I developed and still have quite an interest in them. We have gone very far backwards in this respect as there are very few electrics now. While the batteries were very heavy and both speed and mileage was limited they were clean, quiet and environmentally friendly, that's progress for you!! For those interested there is a good selection in Howth museum. Last Edited By: griffin 03/03/2010 14:40:41. Edited 1 time.
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D250		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 232 03/03/2010 16:10:00 Full Member	The statue of Our Blessed Lady now marks the location of the old bridge. This was paid for and erected by Broadstone staff one of whom was my late Father who was Fitter 56 in Overhauls.
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C236		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1048 03/03/2010 19:33:38	wyth wrote: Its also funny to think in 1970, there was over 900 electric vans & trucks operating in Dublin, milk, bread ect..... today how many? There were also electric breadvans in Drogheda, operated by Peter Lyons Bakery. Not sure how many they had, but they were still in service into the late 1970s, along with a fleet of Bedford TK diesel trucks.
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itv2		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 798 03/03/2010 21:45:23	I believe more photos are available from the O'Dea photograph collection from the Gallery in Temple Bar(the Parliament St. end), they cost average €12-15 each they are just smaller than A4 in size. Dublinbus.cc Serving The Enthusiast Community
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Nigel		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1762 16/07/2010 11:46:51 Expert	The 25" historic maps have reappeared on the OSI website, and I've been having a browse. Lots of interesting topics for discussion, including the tramline in Stanley Street, which lasted until quite recently I think. However, of interest to this topic, is the viaduct at Broadstone, which by the early 1900s, would appear to have been reconstituted for road traffic rather than water. From all these maps, we can see the gradual evolvement of Broadstone as it remains today. Note the roundhouse engine shed and turntable. Western Way is the 'New Road.'
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Donnybrook Observer		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1786 22/07/2010 11:23:16 Expert	Wonderful stuff Nigel - you have a knack of digging up some absolute gems!
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DublinBuses		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1328 16/09/2010 20:46:44	If anyone is interested, a comprehensive pictorial display of the Broadstone area can be seen in the windows of the Broadstone Hall building, directly opposite the Garage on the inbound side. It includes giant size aerial photos, plus much larger versions of the older pictures and street maps posted earlier in this thread.
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Nigel		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1793 20/10/2010 21:22:51 Expert	Another gem has turned up, this time a photograph of Broadstone Station from above the viaduct, with the Royal Canal in the foreground. The road traverses the viaduct, seen on the right, so perhaps the photograph is taken around the time the canal was being filled in and replaced with the roadway.
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griffin		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 937 22/10/2010 14:46:21	Remove this ad Very interesting photo in several ways. The canal in the foreground is now obviously cut off from the main canal yet it still holds water while probably means the harbour where Phibsboro Garage now stands also still had water, most unusual that they didn't drain the water and fill in the canal starting at the harbour end. What appears in the photo is a canal to nowhere! It also tells us that the aqueduct was at least for a while converted to a road bridge, if they were going to demolish it as soon as the canal was drained there would be no need to fill it in.
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