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I don't know when this came into operation but presumably only in the past few weeks. Its also NOT showing on the Bus Eireann website.The 18.15 from Drogheda used to go as far as Navan (not Trim), arrives in Navan at 19.10, and then does the 19.20 from Navan back to Drogheda, via Slane, Duleek etc, the usua; way. But now the 18.15 from Drogheda carries on to Trim, dep Navan at 19.10 (as soon as he gets in), and when he gets to Trim (15-20mins from Navan) it does the 19.50 from Trim back to Navan and Drogheda, leaves Navan at 19.45 or 19.50 and operates to Drogheda via Kentstown, Not via Slane. This bus did operate via Slane for the past approx 10 months, maybe more but i can't remember exactly, and when the bus came into Navan last week to go back to Drogheda at 19.45/19.50 (after doing the 19.30 from Trim), there were 3 or 4 people waiting in Navan to get the bus to Slane, which was supposed to leave at 19.20. But they were told that there was no other bus to Drogheda serving Slane until 07.30am the following morning, meaning 18.20 is the last bus serving Slane from Navan. I don't know how they got home but they could not believe what happened. There was no signs or anything anywhere to state this. I got the bus at 18.15 from Drogheda one of the days during the week and the driver had 188 Trim on the front of the bus, i thought he might have just forgot himself and put up Trim instead of Navan, because all the other duties go to Trim, but i said it to him and he said he was going to Trim, i was surprised at that. When i got off the bus in Navan i asked him about it again and he told me that he does the 1910 from Navan to Trim, 19.30 from Trim back to Drogheda, and 19.45 or 19.50 (i pesume 19.50 but might be earlier as the orads would be a bit more quiet at that time) from Navan back to Drogheda but operating via Kentstown and Duleek, not via Slane and Duleek. He was only back from holidays so he didn't know when it was changed, but i have seen absolutely nothing anywhere to state this change. When i walked passed the bus stop at about 19.45 when he came back in thats when i seen the people wanting to go to Slane, but i don't know what happened after that. They couldn't get the bus cos it wasn't going that way anymore. I looked at the Bus Eireann website before writing this and it still has the 'old' times on it.
The 40 from Tralee to Cork via Millstreet was always operated by VC87, not VC85 although 85 would've been on it a few times, but 87 was the main bus for it. Before that it was VC110. Its VP347 now.
logged in for over a week as I wanted to analyse the changes in detail before
contributing and reading the discussions so if I’ve repeated anything already
said I trust you will understand).
cutbacks see many one day a week routes consigned to history. Also evident are
further cuts to the Expressway via Athlone (once known as Interlink) network
through the axing of service 71. Fellow posters will recall 070 was shortened
to Athlone to Navan in recent times, though a college-days only extension
to/from Dundalk remains on a SuO basis. Several villages and rural locations
are now devoid of a bus service and a small number of places such as
Ballymakenny, Clondrohid and Grangebellew now have a better level of service
It is bad
that these cuts were necessary in the first place. On the whole I think BÉ has
been constructive in how the cuts were made though I feel there are a few
instances where services could have been retained to locations without
incurring any extra cost/running time. Though I feel there are journeys on the
Expressway network where the level of usage is below that of some of the routes
being withdrawn and I have difficulty in seeing how that is fair.
there will be people affected by the cuts. It is a sad day that our country has
reached this nadir. Bus services were the only way to travel for many in rural
Ireland and it is a disservice to that history that numerous people in modern
Ireland seem to consider themselves “above” using a bus. The years and decades
ahead will inevitably see profound changes in transport and some of the places
now losing their bus service may well see a service again in future years,
whether BÉ or a different operator. Unlike disused and dismantled railways
where a more complex situation exists towards reinstatement, bus routes can be
reinstated relatively easily and quickly.
whole Bus Éireann have given rural bus services a good image with punctual,
comfortable and reliable services though I would like to see greater attention
to detail in some aspects. The view that the country bus is only for the poor,
those without a car etc…is stillcommon and needs to be dispelled.
pleased to see PDF timetables being headed with a text box containing the
following clear information “THIS SERVICE IS BEING WITHDRAWN. THE LAST DATE OF
OPERATION WILL BE FRIDAY 26th
FEBRUARY 2010.” (different dates depending on route in question).
dislike the way the Dungarvan and Clonmel cuts were described in the BÉ
Statement as a reorganisation.
cutbacks also highlight the difficulty of defining routes and defining
withdrawal. For instance the media referred to the 418 Galway to Kiltullagh
being withdrawn but in reality a journey remains in one direction along the
entire route! (Note: have also seen 418 referred to as 418a). For the purpose
of this review withdrawals are classified into three sections.
Mallow Railway Stations will now no longer be served by Bus Éireann.
withdrawal comes into effect on Monday 22nd February when the 1330
Route 366 shall serve the Ballyduff Bridge and Glencairn Cross of route for the
I will add
to the end of this review as further, mainly minor, details come to light.
the routes being withdrawn first with details, to the best of my knowledge, of
the final journeys.
** DETAILS AWAITED VIS-À-VIS CO. DONEGAL ROUTES
AND ATHLONE TOWN SERVICE…(weren’t on website when I last looked earlier today,
Sun 7th Feb)
Re-organisation of local network of services that will see routes altered and
some reduction in frequency.
459/459a – Athlone Town Services
Reduction in frequency on routes.”
from BÉ Statement on service changes of Friday 29th January, 2010).
ROUTES BEING WITHDRAWN:
10A (Cork City Services)
Fri 26 Feb, 1925 ex Mahon Point (19hrs ex South
last journey Sun 28 Feb, 1905 Roscrea – Cork.
Last 71 journey from Athlone: Sat 27 Feb 1445hrs. (Route 76 will continue to operate
Athlone-Roscrea and vice versa)
journey Sat 27 Feb, 1545 ex Dublin
last journey Fri 26 Feb, 1600 ex Dublin. (Last
120 to/from Birr Sat 27 Feb)
Last journey via Togher and Blackhall Cross –
Fri 26 Feb, 1615 ex Drogheda
Last journeys Sat 27 Feb
last journey Thurs 25 Feb, 1600 ex Cork
Last journey via Lyre – Tue 23 Feb, 1600 ex
last journey Sat 27 Feb, 1630 ex Waterford
Last journey via Ballyduff: Fri 26 Feb, 1345 ex
Last journey via Ring, Sat 27 Feb, 1345 ex
Last journey ex Ardmore, Sat 27 Feb, 1544 hrs.
last journey via Dunhill and Kill, Wed 24 Feb,
1400 ex Waterford
Last journey via Tramore, Fenor, Annestown and
Kilmurrin, Fri 26 Feb, 1345 ex Waterford
last journey Tue 23 Feb, 1400 ex Clonmel
last journey Tue 23 Feb, 1735 ex Clonmel
last journey Fri 26 Feb, 1735 ex Clonmel
WITHDRAWAL OF ROUTE SECTIONS WHERE ROUTE NUMBER
Navan Town route B: Gainstown Road – Balreask
Arms –Trim Rd.(part) section – last journey 1815 ex Navan Shopping Centre Fri
Last journey via Mullaghboy Ind Est 1715 ex
Navan Shopping Centre, Fri 26 Feb
Inagh to Honan’s Bridge section: last journey
Fri 26 Feb 1820 hrs. Ennis – Inagh – Miltown Malbay
Last journey Sat 27 Feb – 1815 Tallow –
Last journey from Mallow, Sat 27 Feb 1330hrs.
Last journey ex Cork, Fri 26 Feb, 1630hrs.
Last journey via Ballynoe, Thu 25 Feb, 1330 ex
Last journey via Ballyduff Bridge and Glencairn
Cross, Mon 22 Feb, 1330 ex Mallow
OTHER ROUTE WITHDRAWALS WHERE ROUTE CONTINUES
TO BE SERVED IN ITS ENTIRETY:
Last journey Sat 27 Feb, 1800 ex Ashbourne
(1845 ex Blanchardstown SC doesn’t count as it is Service 105)
Fri 26 Feb, 0605 ex Kilfinane
10A Cork City
Statement: ”Route 210A Cork City Service - South Mall-Mahon-Jacob’s Island
14/15 departures in each direction each day. Alternative services available –
Route 2, 10 – within 500 metres of 10A routing. ”
Mondays-only Killarney to Limerick journey is withdrawn.
statement: ”Seven departures a day each way. Change will see one less departure
ex Killarney (Monday only).”
longer serves Millstreet, Rathmore, Rathmore Church and Barraduff. Consequently
these locations lose their Sunday service as replacement route 257 is SuX.
0930 Cork –
Tralee M-S now serves Ballymakeera, Ballyvourney and Glenflesk Church. It
operates fifteen minutes earlier than heretofore from Killarney to Tralee.
1330 Cork –
Tralee M-S withdrawn
Waterford – Tralee M-S operates fifteen minutes earlier than heretofore from
Killarney to Tralee.
–Tralee operates fifteen minutes earlier than heretofore from Killarney to
Waterford – Tralee operates fifteen minutes earlier than heretofore from Killarney
journey - operates fifteen minutes earlier than heretofore from Killarney to
operates fifteen minutes earlier than heretofore from Killarney to Tralee.
Rosslare Harbour-bound direction (M-S timetable):
Tralee – Cork is withdrawn as is the second 0850 Tralee – Waterford.
and 1750 ex Tralee operate fifteen minutes earlier from Macroom to Cork
and 1350 ex Tralee operate fifteen minutes earlier from Macroom to Cork
1750 Tralee – Cork is withdrawn.
footnotes regarding other tables are removed as is the reference to the fact
that the 1440 and 2050 arrivals in Rosslare Harbour do not connect with the
1500 and 2115 sailings to Fishguard. In any case as the coach stops adjacent to
the ferry terminal it should still be just about possible to make the 2115
sailing by arriving at 2050 sharp.
statement: ”Thirteen departures a day in each direction. Change will see one
less departure - Tralee-Cork (Monday only).
services will now operate on the main road via Ballyvourney only. Route 257
will provide a shuttle connection between Macroom/ Killarney and
Ballina to Galway and 2115 Galway to Ballina (Both M-S incl.) are withdrawn.
Statement: “Operates seven times a day. One departure each way to be withdrawn.
76 (Sligo-Carrick-on-Shannon-Roscommon-Athlone-Birr-Roscrea) remains and
provides good connections at Roscrea in both directions to/from Limerick on
Statement: ”Operates once a day in each direction. Alternative services on main
portions of the route are available - Cork-Clonmel-Kilkenny-Dublin, Cork-Dublin
via Portlaoise, Cork-Cahir-Horse & Jockey, and from Birr-Athlone. ”
that the Ardcath and Garristown part of this route could easily have been
incorporated into a morning and evening journey on Route 103 Duleek – Dublin.
For instance a 103 could leave the Duleek to Kilmoon Cross road at Boolies X
from where it is two miles or under to Ardcath. After serving Garristown such a
route could join the N2 at Rath X, about three miles distant. This could be
achieved within the existing running times e.g. 0655 ex Duleek, serve Ardcath
0705, Garristown 0710 and Ashbourne 0725 (onwards to city as per existing
about a mile and a half along a lane (not the proposed route above) from the
nearest point on the R152 Kilmoon – Duleek road. Garristown is slightly over a
two miles from McNally’s X on the N2. At
a realistic walking speed of five minutes per quarter of a mile Ardcath is now
half an hour’s walk from the nearest point on a bus route and Garristown is
about 45 minutes.
statement ”Alternative higher frequency services available from adjacent
locations - Ashbourne, Duleek or Kilmoon Cross”
comment: I disagree because none of these three points are the nearest
alternatives. Duleek is beyond reasonable walking distance from Ardcath and
anyone getting dropped to the bus does not need to get brought to Duleek. They
can board at either Boolies X or the next junction further towards Kilmoon both
of which are significantly closer. McNally’s X on N2 is half the distance from
Garristown that Ashbourne is.
rural area of North Co. Dublin and Meath has lost two other BÉ routes in recent
years the 106 and, more recently, the 184. A private venture (Hollybus) also
fell by the wayside.
Blanchardstown Shopping Centre giving an hourly service to/from Fairyhouse and
Ratoath. Every two hours to Ashbourne.
journeys arriving at Ratoath at XX45 now continue through to Ashbourne,
arriving and departing there at XX50. It would be impossible to travel from
Ratoath to (Central) Ashbourne in 5 minutes (8 at least would be needed) so
this timetabling is clearly to retain clockface timings.
M-S Dublin – Blanchardstown SC – Fairyhouse – Ratoath is withdrawn as is the
1820 SO Ratoath – Fairyhouse – Dublin.
serves Ashbourne in both directions and IKEA (on Navan-bound journeys).
new journeys at 0400 and 2200 ex Navan. Ex DCU there are new journeys at 0520
and 2320. DCU-bound journeys are allowed an additional five minutes running
time and reach the Airport five minutes later than heretofore.
A note in
the table states that the services serve the Marriott Hotel, Ashbourne.
110: Navan Town Service
network started with three buses in late-1999 will now reduce to a solitary
Route A is reduced from the current 13 journeys to 8
journeys. The last journey is 15 minutes earlier at 1815. The 0830 journey now
operates at 0845. I have observed primary school pupils availing of this
journey so the new departure time could be problematic for such passengers (one
of the schools on the route starts at 0850; unsure about the other)
Route B down from 11 journeys to a mere 4, the first
of which is at 0945 and the last at 1800.
rerouteing would appear to see short sections of currently unserved road now
being served. I think the rerouted service may be going to operate along Dan
Shaw Road and on its return into town the listing of Trim Road and then Commons
Road suggests a routeing via Carriage Road.
Mercy Convent nor Mullaghboy Industrial Estate are served any longer by this
Route C is down from 14 to 9 journeys; the first
journey is now at 0815 (previously 0730) and the last at 1815 (previously
Court is now no longer a timing point. It is just shown as a request stop. This
stop is within a housing estate where the bus must reverse so presumably this
change is to avoid the need to wait once passengers have alighted/boarded.
there is an 1815hrs. journey on both Route A and C. Where the second vehicle to
operate this will come from is unclear.
Statement “Reduction in frequency on Routes A, B and C, and change in routing
on Route B with main areas still served.”
This route is now shortened to
Edenderry – Busáras withdrawn.
Dublin to Birr now terminates in Tullamore. Similarly the 1530 SO Birr to
Dublin now commences in Tullamore at 1640.
SuO Dublin –Portumna terminates at Tullamore. Similarly the 1715 SuO
Portumna-Dublin now commences in Tullamore at 1830.
Belmont, Ballycumber, Kilcormac, Mucklagh Village and Screggan Cross are now no
Transport offer a coach service linking most, if not all of these places to
Statement: ”Operates once a day in each direction. Alternative high frequency
services on main portions of the route are available along the Dublin-Athlone
and Dublin-Tullamore corridors. ”
already the case with the 1815 ex Drogheda, the 189 and 186 routes will be
amalgamated. The 189 service number will apply to all journeys with the use of
Service no. 186 being discontinued.
approx. 2.5 miles N of Murrays Cross will no longer be served. However Louth
Linx Rural Transport provides a Wednesday-only route 301 serving Togher and
linking it to Drogheda. (cut ‘n’paste www.louthlinx.com
for timetable for same). There is also a Route 102 on the second Monday of the
month from Togher to Dundalk.
mile stretch of road between Murray’s X and Newtown X will no longer be served
either. Consequently Blackhall Cross will no longer have a service. (Newtown X
is where the third class road to Murray’s X meets the Drogheda-Termonfeckin
regional road, R166.
Cross, Grangebellew, Kellystown and Ballymakenny are winners with this
timetable as they will have three services a day M-S irrespective of school
will the 189A service number, as already observed on the 1815 ex Drogheda, be
Statement: “Amalgamation of two routes. Route will no longer serve Togher Cross
due to low customer numbers and this will result in longer journeys for some
for instance to travel from Beaulieu or Baltray to Drogheda on one of the two
evening journeys one will have to travel around the full route i.e. via Clogher
and Grangebellew before reaching Drogheda.
186 services: 0730 SX ex Drogheda via Blackhall X to Murray’s X, thence up and
back to Togher, once back at Murray’s X into Grangebellew and onwards to
Drogheda via Kellystown and Ballymakenny. I think in the Drogheda suburbs this
journey may divert to serve a secondary school. 1615 SCH – reverse of above.
1815 M-S Clogher bus extends beyond its Hacketts X terminus to Murray’s X and
Grangebellew. Thence back into Drogheda via Kellystown and Ballymakenny.
SX 0815 Ballyvourney to Cork and 1630 return (also SX) withdrawn.
SO journeys at 0800 Macroom – Ballingeary and 1700 return (connection to/from
Route 255) are being withdrawn.
and the road between it and Macroom still remain served by a solitary stage
carriage working viz. 1805 SO Ballyvourney – Macroom.
is also linked to Cork, Macroom etc... by Expressway 040.
Statement: ”One departure each way per day. Alternative services available -
Route 40 (Cork-Tralee high frequency service) and Route 233 Cork-Macroom”
BÉ Statement: ”Route 255
Macroom-Ballingeary-Kealkil-Kilcrohane (Saturday only)
Operates twice a day each way on Saturdays only.”
aware of any other operator on this route so Gougane Barra will now have no
public transport access.
FO Macroom-Millstreet Cross-Clondohid route will be extended beyond Clondohid
to Killarney (via Millstreet, Rathmore and Barraduff). The route will operate
Mondays to Saturdays inclusive. There will be two journeys in each direction
between Killarney and Macroom and a further short working in each direction
between Rathmore and Killarney. The timetable shows that the day’s journeys
will begin and finish at Rathmore though it is unknown if the bus will be based
is a big winner with this route extension. I am trying to locate Millstreet
Cross which I presume is still served.
new 040-257 timetable one can arrive in Cork slightly earlier at 1105 but in
the evening one must depart at the much earlier afternoon time of 1430 in order
to reach Macroom for the 1530 hrs. Route 257 (previously one could leave Cork
at either 1730 or 2030).
arrive in Killarney at the much earlier time of 0835 but the last journey back
along the length of the route is at 1400 though there is a 1745 as far as
Rathmore. Currently one can depart Killarney as late as 1830hrs.
and Millstreet are served by Iarnród Éireann trains with a service in each
direction approximately every two hours, including Sundays. The majority of
these trains operate Cork/Mallow – Tralee and vice versa with at least one
Dublin train in each direction daily.
BÉ Statement: ”Route 271 – Tralee–Cork Via Naad
Operates twice a week. Public and rural transport services available along the
anyone know the companies concerned?
journey at 1030 M-S Limerick – Kilfinane is introduced.
The 1500 SO
Limerick to Kilfinane journey is withdrawn.
The 1615 SX
Limerick – Kilfinane now terminates in Bruff, as it currently does on
Saturdays. It reaches Bruff four minutes earlier at 1650hrs.
The SO 1650
Bruff-Limerick now operates M-S inclusive.
BÉ Statement: ”Currently operates five times a day on Saturdays, twice
during the week in each direction along the route. Change will see one less
departure from Kilfinane during week and one less departure from Limerick on
The 0930 SX
Miltown Malbay – Inagh – Ennis is withdrawn as is the 1820 SX Ennis – Inagh –
regional road between Honan’s Bridge and Inagh will now no longer be served by
continues to offer one journey in each direction Miltown Malbay to Ennis SX,
albeit via Ennistymon (this is the Doonbeg-Ennis route).
Statement: ”Currently operates two departures a day in each direction, extra
departure ex Ennis Fridays only. Change will see one less departure each way. ”
is currently only one 337 per day. With the new timetable Miltown Malbay will
have no 337 at all. I assume the statement is including the 333 also.
operate on Friday 26th February, 2010.
other services along the entire route, albeit with a change at Limerick
journey can be completed albeit a bit later in the morning and taking an extra
The 1540 SX
Limerick to Shannon Airport is withdrawn.
is effectively withdrawn. All that remains is the SuO journey at 1545hrs.
Lismore to Waterford.
from Mallow to Waterford was, to the best of my knowledge, a rail replacement
route for the line that closed in (I think) 1967.
Statement: ”Route 362/364/366/386/387/388 – Dungarvan local services
Re-organisation of local network of services that will see routes altered and
cancellation of services to secondary locations.”
axing of five out of six routes surely cannot be a termed a reorganisation.
Services 386, 387 and 388 are Clonmel local services and go nowhere near
of Route 362 leaves An Rinn Gaeltacht devoid of any bus service.
The 0700 SX
Kiltullagh – Galway journey is withdrawn though the 1630 SX journey from Galway
to Kiltullagh remains.
really say the Kiltullagh route is being withdrawn as there is still one
journey, albeit in one direction only, along the entire route.
Statement: ”Route 418
– Galway – Kiltullagh
Operates once a day Mon – Sat. Alternatives
- 7.20 departure from Athenry. Rail service available from Athenry. ”
Dooagh to Westport and 1500 return are being withdrawn. ALL locations on the Dooagh to Westport route
continue to be served though the new timetable throws up a problem, discussed
below. The quickest journey on the route is 1 h 55 mins (previously 1 h 45
though where the coach to work the 1845 FO Dooagh – Westport and 2020 return
will come from. At present I understand these journeys are worked by the 1500
ex Westport which would be idle at Dooagh outstation from 1700hrs. But as the
new timetable will see the only Dooagh-based coach between Newport and Mulrany
at 1845, it is puzzling where the coach to work these FO journeys will come
of two BÉ vehicles parked side by side in the little yard at the side of the
public road in Dooagh village will now be consigned to history.
with new timetable:
Lack of return service
to Dugort and Dooniver.
1000/1015am ex Dooagh serves Dugort, Valley, Dooniver and Bullsmouth every
places used to be served every evening by the 3pm ex Westport which is now
ex Westport does not serve Dugort, Valley, Dooniver and Bullsmouth on any day
of the week.
when the new timetable is introduced people will be able to travel from Dugort,
Valley, Dooniver and Bullsmouth every morning but there will be no return bus
to these places in the evening. As well as local residents not being able to
return home without a long walk (45 mins or so) from the main road, tourists
will not be able to access these places. Many tourists use the bus to/from
Lack of return service
to Saula Pier Road.
Road is served on Saturday mornings but when the 3pm ex Westport is withdrawn
this area will also have no return service.
There is a
strong case for the evening service to serve these points as there are numerous
houses along and near the route through Bullsmouth, Dooniver , Valley and
Dugort whereas on the main road between Bunacurry and River Cross there are
hardly any houses.
in one direction every morning but no return service any evening is not really
helpful to anyone and may cause existing customers to stop using the service
Statement: “Two departures a day (Monday-Saturday) each way. Change will see
one less departure a day each way.”
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